Please check your email to find a confirmation email, and follow the steps to confirm your humanity. I would not have thought there were no set binds for those devices, and its up to your personal preference to programme in. Sign up for a new account in our community. There are all sorts of advice guides on how to optimise your chances. That made the experience in Star Citizen, which features a surprising amount of walking, much more enjoyable. I currently have a T.16kM HOTAS setup and am looking to upgrade the flightstick first and eventually move over to a HOSAS setup. It works perfectly with all buttons. Hey everyone, i know this has been a few times but i cant find anything that the exact specs im looking at so im going to ask anyway. Also, I'm not dead set on those two options by any means. I don't predict it being a huge game changer, but it's kinda the first time we've had an all metal grip in a high end joystick. I have a Virpil setup. The configuration software is very detailed but complicated. Anyone use Vjoy or similar to get past ED's 32 button limit? By choosing I Accept, you consent to our use of cookies and other tracking technologies. Sorry to resurrect the thread, but I've have my MongoosT-50CM2 throttle for a couple of months and my Constellation Delta should be in this week. Maybe you should try moving some to other ports on your computer if you haven't tried that yet. If you buy something from a Polygon link, Vox Media may earn a commission. I do play in VR pretty often, so the numerous buttons at my fingertips on the Virpil stick apeals to me. Press J to jump to the feed. You can watch some youtube teardowns and see that VKB pays attention to the internals in a really impressive way. I'm not an expert by any stretch, I only intend to use this for Elite Dangerous. Valve Corporation. Don't use the Windows or any third party stuff. Theyre also beautifully powder coated, and come with all the bolts you need to make the attachment to the Constellation. Unfortunately, they're a way down the list now. It functions great and feels great. All rights reserved. That's weird because normally a USB 3 controller can supposedly support up to 127 devices. WarBRD with more throw has some difficulties for center this heavy grip. Choosing a selection results in a full page refresh. All rights reserved. Oh, and to actually answer your question: both the virpil constellation and vkb kosmosima are fantastic. If I want to upgrade in the future I can just buy the Gunfighter base and use the kosmosima stick (If VKB follow through and actually let you buy bases separately). Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Or I can get the Virpil one and have a 2 stick approach which will let me actually assess a proper preference. My favorite set of kit is called the Virpil Constellation Alpha, which, when coupled with a throttle, does an admirable job of controlling commercial aircraft. It will also likely have the same kind of impact when Elite Dangerous: Odyssey launches later this year, adding first-person, on-foot gameplay to that spacefaring game. Oops. Cookie Notice Only set up a profile for each device with the other unplugged. (The Alpha-R is on backorder along with the MongoosT-50CM2 grip as well). You'll see I haven't even mapped the 2nd choice analog features of the top MCG hat on the right hand, ran out of needalso have some repeats left and right in case I get confused in heat of moment. I was hoping for something like this for Virpil Hotas. VKB complicate unnecessary the things, because being a "Apple" require a . I have an in-depth write up here. Also known as a hand-on-stick-and-stick (HOSAS) setup, I found that it completely changed the flight experience in both Star Citizens Persistent Universe and Elite Dangerous. I want to choose the best one for nice grip and feel, reaching buttons with s/med hands, good button placement, usability with Elite and SC, easy twisting for yaw and good centring with no drift. Valve Corporation. I will be using the TM Warthog grip with a stickextension, so if anyone happens to run a similar setup on either the VKB or Virpil yourthoughts will be greatly appreciated. I also had several screw heads shatter as I attempted to remove them, either due to being made from weak metal or being gummed up with too much thread locking paste. https://1drv.ms/p/s!AuHD2NL7qn3w3gxZVfByQOacohmx?e=RhWkjj. Just use the Virpil configuration software, click the box for split by 32 buttons on the profile page and calibrate it. What do you mean by splitting axes? VirPil make easy use Tm Warthog (or Cougar) grip in their bases, since use the same connection nut and grip electronics. I found a couple of programs like this but some of them are no longer . I do find VKB to do much nicer and cleaner internal work which matters if or when you have to open up your grip. Just got the Virpil Constellation Alpha-R grip with the Warbrd base, as well as the 50 CM2 throttle and elite doesn't see any Virpil hardware. And, just like everyone else, Virpils stuff is on backorder as well. After nearly a decade of watching modest, incremental improvements in the space its nice to see a manufacturer innovating with their flight sticks. HOSAS made me a harder target to hit, and helped to improve my own aim especially with fixed weapons. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The full analog mini on both (plus the option of the second which is switchable from digital hat to analog on the fly on the MCG Pro) offers additional axes besides the main X/Y. If not, then you've configured the device incorrectly. If anyone has alternate suggestions for awesome, high quality flight sticks. Both companies use high quality metal gimbals and contactless sensors for axes. I read a few posts about which is best but most people commenting have not used both to really compare. Virpil also may be a little easier to get your hands on sooner rather than later. The ideal base for Warthog - a heavy (~1KG) grip plus extension is T50CM2. 4 - what grip do people think is better the T-50 or the alpha? VirPil make easy use Tm Warthog (or Cougar) grip in their bases, since use the same connection nut and grip electronics. newsletter. The thing that really sold me on it is that the hat switches and mini sticks on the the top are completely modular, so you can literally just drop whichever one you like to suit your purposes without having to take apart the stick. 2 - is virpil worth the extra $200+ more and a very long wait. The feel and build quality is like nothing else. So I accidentally broke my TM Warthog yesterday, not a fun experience. Nevertheless, late last year Virpil sent along a selection of its most popular flight gear. The ideal base for Warthog - a heavy(~1KG) grip plus extension is T50CM2. I've been lucky enough to have purchased of a Virpil CM2 throttle and a Constellation Alpha on Warbird base and I think they are fantastic! VIRPIL hardware key mapping setups (PDF) for you to fill out, https://virpil.freshdesk.com/en/supes/47000029808-vpc-software-quick-start-guide, HOTAS Warthog Flight Stick - Thrustmaster - Technical support website, https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/controls-not-sticking.558432/#post-8792964. Have you tried each device individually with nothing else plugged in? From scanning the reddit here it seems that VKB and Virpil seem to have similar quality and satisfaction from those who have bought, so after that it really does come down to how it feels in your hand and actually trying out the buttons and the layout, which is something you dont get to try until youve already made a decision and honestly something that others cant help with. There really is plenty. I used this for my warthog. Edit: Didn't realize that winwing sticks were metal. 04.08.20|The sheet for the Throttle has been updated (a button was missing). What 'limit' are you talking about? VKB offers an adapter that has to replace the stock connector/pinout in the grip. Very close to the real thing (comparing it to C-130J and A400M controls). If that checks out, Elite should see all the analog axes and some of the buttons. Virpil has the better engineers. VIRPIL hardware - key mapping setups (PDF) for you to fill out I just received my left handed Virpil Alpha and its one of the best gaming peripherals Ive ever had. Better options out there? I've gone back to a single, non-split profile, still nada on any of the three axes . You would basically map your joysticks inputs past 32 to a virtual vjoy device then you are all set. Thank you guys for the help. For space sims, I think Virpil has it over VKB hands down when looking at the Kosmosima vs Constellation Alpha. I also have smallish hands and found that VKB is better suited to my hands and more ergonomically designed. Got a Virpil throttle but I can only program about half the hats, axis', and buttons because of ED limiting us to 32 "buttons" per device. Virpil is a more competitive option if you want to use TM grips out of the box (but you could just buy a VKB adapter and do the same or a WinWing base). Between the WarBRD and Gunfighter options it really seems to come down to personal preference and I'll never know without putting my hands on each. There's only so much your thumb can roam around and do. Unless you know where they are on the sticks, it'll be very confusing. Only set up a profile for each device with the other unplugged. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. They are both superb bits of kit though and you will not regret buying either. The non-marking pads on the mounting hardware, for instance, began to slide off after several weeks of continuous use. Both of my Virpil bases had slack in the X axis at centre out of the box. Warthog grip and you are good to go. Ive been taking it for a test drive on my custom-built flight rig. If youre stuck on Microsoft Flight Simulator especially the big commercial airliners give Honeycomb Aeronautical a try. Its high-end equipment is currently in stock. Also, I did notice some defective materials in the batch of products that I received. In term of quality, feel and performance? I plan on positing a review of the mcg ultimate once I receive it (should be getting it later this week hopefully) if you're curious. After plenty of research my decision has come down to either Virpil - VPC WarBRD base with Constellation Alpha stick, VKB - Gunfighter MK.III base with SCG (Kosmosima) stick, VKB - Gladiator NXT (for the benefit of any noobs like me, this is a base and includes the SCG Kosmosima stick). I have the same Virpil throttle. 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